you served with chuck hagel. how do you think he will do? >> i think he will do well. chuck is a friend. he was a republican. i was a democrat. he served for 12 years of the 18 years i served in the senate. i think he's smart. he's capable. he knows defense and foreign policy issues. you know, here is a guy that fought on the battlefield, earned two purple hearts and was hectored during his nomination. you know, i thought what happened to him was pretty thoughtless in this process. >> bill: he was badly treated by his fellow republicans. unfairly, i believe. >> these are people who worked with him 12 years. he would go to their caucus once a week. presumably, all friend and acquaintances and i think for political reasons, he took it on the chin during that process. but he's now there and he's going to be a good secretary of defense in my judgment. >> bill: do you think he can repair -- mend his fences? >> i do. chuck is smart and capable and i think he will do well. >> bill: if he were in the senate today, how would you vote on the sequester? what do you think the sena